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How to disappear in time(s)

I am having a chat about Jennifer Allen's lecture "The end of privacy and the fate of public space" with an illuminator.

 

"...the lines of Guy Debord who said that social relations are mediated by images, that is the spectacle. But when I am the spectacle I am mediating my own social relationships, so there are many spectacles like rhizomes because there is also the emancipated spectator, Jennifer Allen quoted Rancière, that is very interesting. The emancipated spectator is not only a spectator, he is an active spectator but not in the internet."

 

So the internet is an interpassive spectacle or how can there be emancipated spectatorship in the internet?

 

"Because it is possible to communicate and to mediate your own relationships via the net you get your own spectacle, your own motor, your own apparatus but the question was for me how to think it with Guy Debord, the spectacle is also an ideological machine. There was not really a clear answer but the spectacle was the division between the image and the reality. Now image and reality are becoming the same. The reality is constructed by images already, the reality was never there."

 

So we loose the distinction between base and superstructure?

 

"Yes."

 

Maybe this distinction never worked anyway, but...


"This internet democracy and spectatorship democracy thing, Jennifer Allen is very much refering to Rancière and his other text about collectivity."


What do you take from her lecture for your own thinking?


"Life is becoming a performative spectacle. And you do not exist if you are not on the internet and you have to make a reproduction of reality if you do something so that the world knows that it happened."


That is your conclusion?


"For me it is very interesting that if I am not documenting I am disappearing and disappearing is more interesting for me than appearing."

 


23/08/14 04:55 Summer Academy 2014
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