Another day of happy faces ambling around...
Irina Nakhova's class The Nude: Interpretation in Painting
Because of the dedication and speed in the Academy, from time to time our minds resemble a chaotic jumble. Despite being extremely busy, art critic Kimberly Bradley answered my questions on her class Images into Words: Writing About Art and problematics around recent interest (!) of artists on immigration and asylum. It was a great pleasure to meet with the writer in person and to see that besides being an influential writer, she is, umm, so cool. (I know, I sound like such a groupie!)
The class is ending today, and they're working like ants to publish their zine on time!
G:This is your first time teaching art writing in the Summer Academy, however you have been giving classes on contemporary art in NYU Berlin. How is this new experience for you? Could you explain the structure of the class more?
G: Recently, as mentioned in your talk, you have been working on a piece focusing on the problems that refugees in Vienna have been dealing with. Could you tell us more about it? I was also wondering how you observe the rise of artists working on topics related to refugees.
Image source: Macedonia Online
Hi, Goksu,
It's Magdalena Filipova, we`ve meet yesterday, I told you about the problems in my country, Macedonia.
Last night, I left the Fortress around 21:30. Melissa Gordon's painting class Who am I as a Painter, In Painting, In Making? put on an impressive performance by using not only paint but also various materials such as fabric, overall projector and text... A painting was worn, objects flew away from the paintings, dots became the protagonists and other paintings were carried as if it's a beauty contest, while an artist-student was describing them with immediate word flow.
Beforehand, Valerié Jouve took a photo of the absolute musts of the Academy: the technicians – some are also artists. Even though Stephen Mathewson, Johannes Knall, Sebastian Schindlauer and Thomas Muthwill work a lot, a huge smile always awaits for you.
G: Why did you decide working with these particular objects that you name as "lexicons"?
MC: The subject we are studying in this course is “walking out sculptures.” We were talking about interventions, particularly in an environment controlled like Salzburg. Very often, the intervention has to be you, because here you cannot make a mess. So, it has to be something you carry with you.
It really began with the objects, the imagery of the objects. I’ve first started with the coffee stirers I found that make quite nice markers. In my mind, I had a mental image of marks that appear on maps. From that I’ve ended up building this lexicon − a system of signs. But, it’s quite unconscious. It didn’t actually mean anything itself. From that, I thought what might be a nice idea is to start with a lexicon and trying to find a meaning.
G: What kind of signs were they? Did they just pop up in your head and through time you started to give meaning to them?
MC: Yes, it was quite subconscious. Often little red circles, like badly printed signs on cheap paper. The same thing was happening with the ink on wood. It kind of revolved as well: I began to use nail polish or gold pen for instance. That also became the part of the language.
I was looking for meanings to give to each of these symbols. I thought it would be a quite good idea to find a feature or even completely non-descriptive and mundane environment for the markers. So I just pursued from there.
G: How do you choose the spot to mark?
MC: It’s quite spontaneous like the whole thing of Pointful Walks and Excursions. I start to walk perhaps with a particular idea in mind, but as the walk progresses you recalibrate. What originally was the plan is changed with an encounter on the way. It references to Guy Debord and psychogeography. It’s always much more about what happens during the walk. For example, in the first walk I took here, I found myself right out into the suburbs, at the city limits.
G: Although it comes from Guy Debord’s situasionist walks and you work intuitively, do you have a specific method?
MC: It’s more sort or circumstances of feelings that make sense. When I come to pick a spot, I try to vary it. There isn’t repetition. For example, the one in the middle of the traffic island has a certain kind of bathos as well. They are things, which you normally ignore…
G: Have you ever re-encountered them?
MC: Yes… But I think, I’m also looking out for them.
G: For the piece you have been working in the Fortress, you also use the markers.
MC: The space upstairs is like a central point. I’m going north-south-east and west – this afternoon, I’ll be heading for west. The writer, artist Alan Moore says that universe has many centres as people. Every person is the centre. It’s quite arbitrary, but I was thinking the space here as the centre.
G: How do you end the walk?
The end of the journey is pretty much determined by time, something as mundane as “the battery is out of the camera” or I just encounter a natural-kind-of-end. The day before, we were looking for the end of Salzburg and we never quite got there. I found this strange green tower. I’ve already made the lexicon before going out, so I saw an uncanny resemblance between them and that was the end.